Playhouse Theatre, Philadelphia
May 5th 2007
Reported by JT and Jobadge, for L-word.com
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Q. How did you prepare
for your roles?
Diane: I was cast three days before so
I didn’t prepare! I didn’t know the lines –
I would learn them that morning...it was all in the writing,
the experience and I could totally relate to it. It broke
my heart.
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Erin: I worked with Katherine for three years
work shopping before we actually shot. So I had a lot of time to
actually get into Annabelle and Katherine gave me lessons on how
to be gay! (lots of laughter at this point!) How to sit, mannerisms...undoing
bras with one hand and things like that.
Q. Loving Annabelle is based on the 1921 cult classic Maedchan
in Uniform....have you both seen it?
Erin: I haven’t seen it no
Diane: I didn’t have time before but I’ve
had three years to watch it since but still haven’t! (both
looking a bit embarrassed about that!)
Q. One of the key elements of the film is the great poetry
throughout it. How were you able to act using the imagery of the
poetry?
Diane: I loved the poetry but I was just trying
to remember the lines! (laughs)
Q. You both had great on-screen chemistry. Did you work
anything out to achieve this?
Erin: Even though we didn’t know who Simone was going
to be, Katherine always said that if we got a Simone early on that
she didn’t want me to know her until we started shooting so
that the meeting was genuine. (Erin looks at Diane, looks her up
and down, smiles and adds) And look at her how could you not like
her?! (no arguments from anyone there!)
Diane: I felt really safe with Erin – I couldn’t
have done this role, with that amount of time with anybody if I
didn’t have that, you know. Erin’s so lovely and open
and there’s no crap. (more laughter).
Q, Is this the first film for either of you that you have
been intimate with another woman?
Erin and Diane: Yes
Q. For Diane – you delved deep into the psyche of
your character of Simone as a repressed teacher. How were you able
to be so convincing?
Diane: (After much thought) I think this planet is a very
complicated place and I’ve had my share of a complicated existence,
so I had lots to draw upon!
Q. For Erin – your character of Annabelle was so
brazen and confident. How did you manage this as it seemed so effortless?
Erin: It was! It’s interesting because I’m
such a shy person in life but in acting you can be who you want.
Q. Did you help re-write any of your part because you had
been working on it so long?
Erin: I work shopped dialogue back and forth with Katherine,
so possibly.
Q. It’s more of a question for Katherine but it’s
about the religious aspect – I felt it wasn’t overpowering
and that it was always a subtle backdrop. Did you find it hard not
to cross that line of it being subtle?
Erin: Katherine said that she was always found something
about Catholicism very sexy and she wanted to explore that. She
had a priest in her life that was sort of representative of Father
Harris and she wanted to show that without putting a bad light on
it.
Q. Will there be a sequel?
Diane: We did an interview this morning and I said that
if they shot it in Tuscany.... (laughter at this). Sequels are never
as good.
Q. How did you both feel about the ending?
Erin: I liked the ending as it was realistic.
Diane nods in agreement at this.
Q. For Diane - How do you feel about the roles that you
play as you seem to play a lot of complex depressing roles?
Diane: I am very happy, very very happy with the work that
I do and the roles that I play.
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Q. It’s a shame
that your talent isn’t more widely recognised for bigger
roles such as Judy Dench’s part in ‘Notes on a
Scandal’. You would have been great for that part.
Diane: Thank you. But I’m no Judy Dench or
Cate Blanchett! If the world was fair then Erin and I would
have those kinds of roles, but life isn’t fair and it’s
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Q. For Erin – what is involved in the workshop process?
Erin: Katherine became one of my best friends and so it
was a case of going over to her house and reading through the script,
all of the parts, back and forth. In the interview this morning
we talked about how Katherine would get me to sit in a certain manner
– instead of sitting like this (she demonstrates by sitting
daintily with her legs crossed – laughter at this), and that
I needed to be confident, and how to walk.
Q. Did the script change very much?
Erin: Oh yeah! The first time I read it, when Simone and
Annabelle go to the beach they did mushrooms! (lots of laughter
at this!) The time I spent working with Katherine the script changed
a lot. Katherine worked on the script for seven years.
Q. In the scene between Simone and Mother Immaculata where
she touches her hair, did you see some kind of underlying issue
with this, like abuse?
Diane: It’s intentionally ambiguous so it doesn’t
say what exactly happened – I can’t remember if Katherine
had a decision about it. But for me, if I were to make up in my
head what went on, Mother Immaculata had her own reasons for becoming
a nun, and there is a very complicated relationship there. I didn’t
make a decision as to whether anything physical happened but there
is an energy between them there that isn’t appropriate as
an older woman and a younger girl, and had probably been there since
Simone had been young.
Q. The impact of your characters has touched the world
– how do you feel about this?
Erin: I feel incredibly blessed (becomes emotional at this
point) to have the opportunity to effect people the way Annabelle
has, I’ve had lots of letters and women and young girls come
up to me and share their stories with me, which is so touching and
I am grateful that I can bear witness to that. Wolfe, the distribution
company, and I are putting together a website for young girls to
go to – like an ‘Ask Annabelle’ site that they
can ask questions anonymously and we will have someone professionally
to answer questions. The girls can interact with one another to
share their experiences and help each other out, and build a community
for themselves, as the girls that have spoken to me talk of being
scared and feeling isolated. I want to create a space where women
can feel that they are not alone.
Diane: I have long answers that are inarticulate
that I tried to answer earlier this morning in an interview....(laughs)
I am very happy and very excited that the film has reached so many
people. It’s wonderful. It’s what films should do –
we need entertainment, we need escape but that’s ALL we get
from the main stream. This is why I run the non-profit company because
I believe that this is the kind of work that is not getting made
as often as it should.
Q. Did you both enjoy the sex scene?
Erin: It was the hardest thing we had to shoot and is very
un-sexy - no offence to Diane in any way shape or form, but when
you’re lying on top of each other and hair and make-up are
coming in and the lights are moving around, and Katherine is shouting
“take her shirt off”.....
Diane: Erin is very beautiful so it wasn’t
very hard but if I was actually doing that scene with someone I
had feelings for it would be too embarrassing because that would
be me. It’s ok for the character but I would be so embarrassed
if it was ME making love to someone on camera (everyone laughs at
this).
Q. What projects do you have coming up next?
Erin: I’m in Katherine’s next movie Waking
Madison, which is due to start shooting soon.
Diane: I have a bunch of projects lined up –
I don’t know where we’ll get the money for them though
– my husband and I will probably make our second feature film
this fall, in Buffalo where I’m from. And a friend of mine
has created a pilot that I’m attached to and it is gay and
lesbian. It’s about a man and a woman who are married and
admit to themselves that they are gay and finally to each other...well
she gets caught... (laughter) We don’t know whether it will
be an internet series or maybe a cable company will pick it up.
We’re just going to go ahead and make it. It’s an interesting
story as they have their own relationships and they’ve got
kids, their own lives and their own worlds and their new relationships
Q. Did the school, where the film Loving Annabelle was
shot, know what the film was to be about?
Erin: They didn’t tell them what it was about and
then the person who was managing the location who worked at the
school turned up at the Outfest film festival and Katherine is like
“oh my god, they’re here!” and Katherine went
up on stage and apologised, but the woman just said ‘my daughter’s
gay you should have just said I wouldn’t have cared!’
Q. Considering acting is so challenging mentally, spiritually
and emotionally what do you do for your downtime to ready yourself
for the next challenge? I can tell you (Diane) do yoga because you
are so centred and calm.
Diane: I do, but yes, acting is challenging but more so
because of the voices in my head saying I’m not doing it good
enough, but when I act it’s like being a child playing make
believe. I don’t take it all on – I have enough of my
own shit. But I do like hiking and yoga and I...
‘Drink wine?!’ JT suggests.
Diane: yes, drink wine (lots of laughter)
Q. Your character was very sensitive to Collins in regards
to her cutting herself. What are your general feelings about this?
Erin: I don’t have any personal experience around
this – it’s a hard question to answer. It’s in
a similar vein to girls trying to come out - my heart just goes
out to anyone looking for help.
Q. Do you find Loving Annabelle difficult to watch?
Erin: For the most part I don’t care but there are
some scenes that I don’t like to watch, because there are
scenes where I can tell that I’m not telling the truth. That
bothers me because a good actor should never not be telling the
truth.
Q. Are you quite self critical then?
Erin: Yeah – everyone’s their own worse critic
I think.
Diane: Yeah I’m pretty much the same –
there are moments where I think my voice is too high, I need to
get rid of that thing (presses the creases between her eyebrows)
– I mean I could get rid of that thing – I actually
did try once, I had Botox and my friend said it paralysed my third
eye! (lots of laughter)
Q. For Erin – did you always want to act?
Erin: Yeah – the first play I saw I was four and
one of our family friend’s was in it, and after watching that
I decided that that was what I wanted to do. I did my first play
when I was really little.
Q. Was it difficult to work on a small budget film what
with the time constraints and the restrictions this inflicts?
Erin: One of the hardest days but also the most rewarding
days of shooting was when we did the sex scene, the break-up scene
– we did all these really emotional scenes one after another
in the same day and we didn’t have much time and at one point
the three of us (one being Katherine) went outside and I was just
crying because I was so happy but my emotions were on a roller coaster,
having to be really happy, then seductive and then the next minute
completely devastated. So it’s hard for that reason –
you don’t have a lot of time and you can only use one or two
takes per shot, which makes it hard in the editing room because
you don’t have a lot of options.
Diane: I like working on low budget because you
have more freedom – more freedom to make the film you want
to make, in the creativeness sense not the budgetary sense. You
can say what you want to say.
Q. It has been said that you (Erin) and Katherine were
not happy with the beach scene. Why is that?
Erin: It was the last day of shooting and I made the mistake
of falling into my surroundings. The whole crew were like it’s
the last day we can relax, so I kind of relaxed with them –
I didn’t maintain a level of awareness and focus that I did
on other days and I don’t like my performance.
Q. How did your family react to the film?
Erin: My dad went to the premiere and he stood up and said
how proud he was of me. (Erin gets emotional at this point.)
Q. I caught you in a few episodes of the TV show Beyond
the Break and then you disappeared. What happened?
Erin: I did four episodes – I auditioned for the
part. I told them that I surfed and they liked that – I told
them that I was young and they liked that too. It was fun and we
shot it in Hawaii.
Q, How old ARE you?
Erin: How old do you want me to be?! (lots of laughter!)
Q. What was in the Jack Daniels bottle?
Erin – ice tea I think.
Q. If you were both to play another lesbian character are
you worried about being stereotyped?
Erin: Ideally it would be nice to do something in between
but I’m not worried about it. My agent doesn’t want
me to – at least not immediately, right now.
Diane: I’m not worried, I’ve even created
a project – a short, where I play a woman who has lost her
partner and we have a child. So I’m not concerned at all,
no.
Q. What drew you both to the script?
Erin: Katherine came up to me in a theatre – I wasn’t
in the play I was in the audience, and said “tell me you’re
an actress, I have the perfect role for you”. The first time
I read it I loved it and I was actually more drawn to the character
of Kat and as I played with the script I loved it more.
Diane: Katherine’s manager is a friend of
mine – she emailed me the script, I was hiking in Montana.
I read it that night and it touched me - I actually got choked up
and I could feel it.
Q So was it the emotion that you were drawn to?
Diane: Yeah and often its intuition and instinct, and I
can feel it.
Q. For Diane - What has been the most challenging role
you have ever done?
Diane: I did one short that my friend directed and we shot
downtown where there was lots of broken glass and she wanted me
to walk around in bare feet! Every role is challenging – oh
god, you know the most challenging thing I have ever done was last
fall when I went back to theatre for the first time in twenty years
and I did Long Day’s Journey Into Night. What I was thinking
accepting that role after not doing theatre for twenty years! I
couldn’t get the words in my head and it IS one of the most
difficult roles in theatre, It is also one of the most expensive
roles in theatre – I found it really rewarding.
Q. For Diane – I read that you have a psychology
qualification and are interested in the spiritual side of this.
Do you use any of this to help you prepare for roles?
Diane: No I think what that gives me is an awareness -
an understanding because I learn all these things, read all these
books and learn these techniques, it’s just an awareness of
how human we all are and an ability to not judge myself and the
character’s that I play.
Q. If you could play any role what would it be?
Diane: I love working with filmmakers who are creating
fresh new things - I’ve been so lucky in the past, I’m
sure there are more wonderful things to come.
Q. Where would I find the ‘Ask Annabelle’ site
so that I can offer that to my students?
Erin: I promise that it will be up within the next month
– you can check out my website and there will be a link on
it – www.erinrosekelly.com or on my MySpace.
Q. Do you have a favourite scene?
Diane: I loved everything and I really liked working with
Erin but I loved working with Kevin, the priest. There was something
about him, he’s in his 90’s – I don’t really
know his films or anything but he has this incredible presence,
it’s palpable, he’s amazing. I also liked the scene
where I broke up with Michael.
Erin: My favourite scene I wasn’t in – it was the scene
with Jake in it, Kat’s brother, he is one of my very dear
friends and watching him up on stage playing his guitar I just started
crying. Unlike when I was up on stage, that was the most terrifying
thing!
Transcribed by JT
Thanks to solorcry and lchaser for the dvd footage to help me transcribe!
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