By BetteAndTinaForever
(Warning: minor spoilers)
| Last week I went to the premiere
of the new movie, “Itty Bitty Titty Committee”,
written and directed by Jamie Babbit who many of you know
as a director of “But I’m a Cheerleader”
as well as the director of a few episodes of The L Word.
Jamie actually directed one of my favorite episodes in the
fourth season, episode 408 “Lexington and Concord”
and was a director of the second episode in the upcoming fifth
season. I was able to talk to her and ask a few questions
about her new movie and about The L Word.
B&TF: What is the professional difference
for you in making full-length movies and directing a TV episode?
I know that you directed episode 502 for The L Word, right?
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Jamie Babbit
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JB: Right…well, the great thing about working
on The L Word is it’s a fantastic crew and they are all union
and they all know what they’re doing and they’re very
well-oiled machine. And when I work on independent film, I’m
working with people who are more inexperienced, and don’t
know the ins and outs…they are learning…that’s
one of the real pleasures of working on The L Word and why it looks
so great and why we can make a great episode of one hour TV in a
7 days.
B&TF: What’s an emotional difference
for you as a person and a director or also maybe as a fan of the
show?
JB: I think that emotional difference is that
the show is really Ilene’s show and Ilene’s world and
Ilene’s writing and so, for me I just really feel like I really
want to honor Ilene and to honor her vision and I feel like I want
to bring my creativity to her vision but at the same time I really
want to respect her words and respect the characters. You know,
these actresses have been playing these parts for years and I’m
directing a single episode so I’m really trying give them
the respect that they know their characters but at the same time
helping them, you know, fulfill the scene but obviously in the movie
project they’ve never played the character before so I have
a lot more hand-holding ordeal with the actress and the script is
also probably a little more of my vision but I’m so honored
because I love the show and I love Ilene’s work and I’m
very privileged that I get to work on it.
B&TF: Good that you brought up the question
of actors knowing their characters because they are playing them
for so long because there were so many interviews where the cast
members mentioned that after 3-4 years they know their characters
so well and sometimes they want to make some changes because they
think, “Well, my character would never say that or do that.”
So the question is if they would come to you and ask for some changes
do you as a director have the power to make those changes or you
still have to talk to Ilene about it or you make it based on what
you know about the characters…how does this work?
JB: There’s a conversation with Ilene beforehand
about what’s kind of appropriate and what we’re allowed
to do as far as making changes on set and she’s very flexible
about letting the actors, you know, dictate the line changes or
you know, making things more of their own…she’s very
flexible about that type of stuff so, it’s very open and I
usually tell the actors that it’s totally fine. If I feel
like the actor doesn’t want to do something in the scene and
they’re saying it’s their character but it’s actually
because they are afraid, you know, maybe a really vulnerable moment
they have to play or maybe it requires some, you know, clothes coming
off (chuckles) or something like that, that I feel like it’s
coming more out of fear than out of a real dedication to the character
then that’s where I would say, “You know what, we really
have to do this.” So I’m trying to use my judgment but
for the most part I would say that the actors are usually coming
from a place of truth and it’s usually not out of fear and
they really know their characters and they always make it better.
B&TF: Can you give an example when it was
happening out of fear of doing something or maybe being uncomfortable
or when you knew that it was more about the character than about
themselves.
JB: Um…I was doing a scene with Kate and
an actor who was a day-player from Canada and it was…the whole
scene was really more for comedy than it was for anything else.
Kate’s very respectful actor and she doesn’t want to
put her hands all over someone’s boobs, you know…she
was with this nice Canadian actor and she doesn’t want them
to think she’s a freak or a pervert or whatever, but after
the scene was finished I said, “You know, if you were really…yeah,
I know they were playing this for comedy but if you were really
getting careless with this girl, your hands would be all over her
boobs, I’m just telling you should be bad…
B&TF: Because this is who Shane is…
JB: Yes, it was the character of Shane and I said
it in front of the other actor so the other actor knew, “Okay,
she’s gonna do this because the director’s telling her
and not because she’s trying to, you know, to feel or whatever…”
So, that’s very typical. I think most actors are really trying
to be respectful of other actors and so they won’t touch them,
you know, physically in the sex scene but often it looks fake and
you have to push them and tell them that it’s okay and they’re
not being perverted.
B&TF: Okay…another question in the same
direction. If you’re reading the script, for example, and
you, as a director can see that some scene is not gonna work, not
because the actors would tell you but because, as a director, you
can see this is not gonna work right or it doesn’t look right,
again, who’s making the decision about changing things? Like
to the script or the setting of the scene?
JB: What happens is that we have preparations
so we have 7 days before where we read the scenes, so I would never
on the moment when I’m filming something say, “That
scene doesn’t work.” Because if I haven’t read
the scene and really haven’t thought about it beforehand,
than I really haven’t done my job, so what I’ll do is
I’ll read it in prep and when I’m preparing this 7 days
before we start shooting, if I see like a scene isn’t quite
right then I would come to Ilene and I would say, you know, “This
scene’s weird to me, what do you think?” and either
she would explain it to me or say, “Okay, let’s change
it.” So that’s the discussion that I would have before
the actual day of filming.
B&TF: One more question about this subject.
You know, on OurChart they posted a few behind-the-scenes little
videos from the set of The L Word and they are talking about wardrobe
and about episode shooting. And there was one podcast where you
were talking about filming episode 502 and you were explaining what’s
actually happening. Can you maybe tell me shortly about your part?
I know it’s only 8 days to shoot the episode but there’s
something before and something after, so what is your role apart
from the directing? What else are you doing?
JB: Well, I come to Canada like a week and a half
before we start shooting, so 7 days before, so I’m doing casting
for all the parts, even for someone who’s in the show for
one episode or two episodes and then I’m going to auditions
and then I’m helping to pick the actors with Ilene. I’m
reading the scripts and then I, you know, bring up questions I have,
and I’m looking at the set and, for example, I did a wedding
episode so I had to help the production designer and a costume designer
plan the wedding, so it’s like throwing a real wedding. We
have to find a location, we have to think about what kind of food
they would have, we have to think about what colors they would have
at the wedding, we have to think about who are the bridesmaids,
what are they wearing, you know, all that kind of preparation stuff
a week an a half before. So it’s a really, really full time.
B&TF: So it’s like you’re working
together with all the other people involved so you have to be involved
in every part of the process.
JB: Yes.
B&TF: Okay, last question about The L Word.
Do you have a favorite character on The L Word and why?
JB: I would say my favorite character is probably
Jennifer Beals, um…her character, Bette, because I think she’s
so smart and I really respect her and I feel like she’s complicated
but just a fierce woman and she’s gorgeous, of course, and
I also think she’s just a very intelligent, incredible woman
and very talented actress. All these things make her my favorite
character.
B&TF: Well, I’m a fan of Bette and Tina, I want them
to get back together, I want them to work things out. Without revealing
a lot of spoilers, can you tell me if there’s any hope, because
there’s more TiBette fans than for any other character…
JB: yeah…
B&TF: yes, so can you tell me anything that
can give us hope that something might happen that might bring their
reunion?
JB: Well, what’s great about the Bette and
Tina relationship is that it goes so deep and they do have their
child and I think they have a very deep connection and they always
will. So, no matter what, their deep connection will remain and
whether or not they actually are able to make their relationship
work, I don’t know, I only did episode 2. But, on the other
hand, I know that Ilene is really respectful of their relationship.
It still goes very deep and actually in my episode that I did last
year, that’s where Tina said, you know, “I miss being
part of with women…”
B&TF: episode 408, one of my favorite…I
loved it…
JB: yes, so I think she really honors their relationship
and I think, like with most lesbian couples, there’s always
hope of them getting back together (laughing).
B&TF: well, you know that they were the longest
one together and lots of people here are thinking that Ilene needs
to show some positive aspect of lesbian relationship because everything
I see on the screen is them cheating, fighting, splitting up, stuff
like that…you want to see something positive that would be
great to show that it can actually work, and you’re right,
they have such a deep relationship, more than anyone else. It might
work, it might not, but they have so much between them…so
you think there’s hope?
JB: yes, I think there’s definitely hope,
yeah.
B&TF: Great, thanks…now about your new
movie. I read a couple of interviews about the movie that you were
giving and there were couple of questions that I wanted to clarify.
Were you trying to make some kind of political statements with “Itty
Bitty Titty Committee”?
JB: I think my work always has some kind of political
bend to it but I also tried to bring a lot humor to it, I mean I’ve
been a part of so many of those political groups throughout my life
and what happens inside of them is like truly spirited, ridiculous
and funny, you know, there’s romance and intrigue, there’s
a lot gong on, so it definitely not meant to be just a political
movie, it’s also about relationships, lesbians…
B&TF: What other issues you were trying to
explore with this film?
JB: I wanted to explore just women involved in
feminism and what it means and how they all have different politics,
they all fight and no one can agree on what’s important. Just
kind of the chaos and the different groups battling each other.
B&TF: Did you write the show? I read that
there were ads posted that you were looking for writers and the
winners helped to write the script but were you influenced by something
or someone to get the idea for the movie?
JB: yeah, actually I did write the story and it
was totally inspired my own involvement with political groups over
the years.
(At this moment we were told that it was time to go inside for
the screening of the movie and I only had a few seconds left.)
B&TF: Well, thank you for your time.
JB: Thank you.
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